skzbrust ([info]skzbrust) wrote,
@ 2007-05-08 19:32:00
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Jesus and the Gays
My friend Don has a brother named Jim.  Jim has been a Republican for 40 years, but in the last election voted Democratic because, well, I guess he had to.  Now, Jim has a friend of long-standing who is a Jesus-loving Bush-supporting liberal-hating Gay-bashing Republican of THAT school, and has been giving Jim shit for the last couple of years, calling him a liberal, a Gay-lover, and so on.  You know the drill.

So, according to Don, Jim ran into this friend recently and said, "Hey, I've figured it out.  I now understand why you hate Gays so much.  I found a passage in the New Testament where Jesus rails against them."  "You did?" said his friend, who I guess had only found support in the Old Testament.  "Yep.  John 3:15"  "You mean, 16?"  "Nope, 15.  John 3:15.  It reads like this: ' That whosoever believeth in him may not perish, but may have life everlasting, except for you two cocksuckers in back, because ain't no fucking fags gettin' into heaven!'"




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[info]gomeza
2007-05-09 02:53 am UTC (link)
Jim sounds a lot cooler than his so-called friend. In fact, I like Jim already.

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[info]gomeza
2007-05-09 08:35 pm UTC (link)
Hmm, think I'd better clarify: if you can't beat 'em, fuck with their heads.

I suppose everyone has already seen that "Dear Dr. Laura" letter...

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[info]mia_mcdavid
2007-05-09 02:57 am UTC (link)
Oh, gee, I missed that part when I read the New Testament!

Must go repent now.

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[info]baka_kit
2007-05-09 03:08 am UTC (link)
Love the icon!

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[info]gramina
2007-05-09 03:40 am UTC (link)
Ditto [info]baka_kit!

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[info]incyr
2007-05-09 04:33 am UTC (link)
Fabulous icon! Mind if I steal? Please?

And that story is fabulous - I must remember that in the future.

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(no subject) - [info]mia_mcdavid, 2007-05-09 11:24 am UTC

[info]coolsilverboi
2007-05-09 06:23 am UTC (link)
i love the icon too.

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[info]docstrange
2007-05-09 03:04 am UTC (link)
Hunh. I think you misspelled "blahblahblah."

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Someone is confused
[info]dvcastle
2007-05-09 03:10 am UTC (link)
Speaking for Jesus is a pretty bold move. I mean, if the manger and the cross and the entire story in between doesn't scream out that the penultimate virtue is humility then maybe I missed something.

In fact, if I am supposed to be an image-bearer-of-the-creator then I need to be looking at a very humble guy when I look into the mirror. Hard to go there if I'm bashing and hating and counting up how superior I am.

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Re: Someone is confused
[info]cpxbrex
2007-05-09 04:51 am UTC (link)
Jesus doesn't come off to me as particularly humble. He comes off as an arrogant jerk, really. He totally disses the Pharisees, sanctimoniously pronounces hellfire and damnation for people who don't do things his way, and generally behaves poorly to anyone who doesn't treat him like he, ahem, walks on water. He surrounds himself with a bunch of toadying sycophants, too, who are incapable of pointing out when he's being a dick.

Sorry, any asshat who condemns most of the human race to hellfire because they don't accept the holy spirit or whatever is not humble. That's arrogance on a massive scale.

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Re: Someone is confused - [info]yndy, 2007-05-09 06:19 am UTC
Re: Someone is confused - [info]anjylle, 2007-05-09 06:54 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]hellmutt, 2007-05-09 11:23 am UTC
Re: Someone is confused - [info]arienna, 2007-05-09 12:11 pm UTC
Re: Someone is confused - [info]cpxbrex, 2007-05-09 04:45 pm UTC
Re: Someone is confused - [info]mattador, 2007-05-09 05:30 pm UTC
Re: Someone is confused - [info]cpxbrex, 2007-05-09 05:32 pm UTC
Re: Someone is confused - [info]mattador, 2007-05-09 05:34 pm UTC
Re: Someone is confused - [info]howardbrazee, 2007-05-09 01:01 pm UTC
Re: Someone is confused - [info]cpxbrex, 2007-05-09 04:47 pm UTC
Re: Someone is confused - [info]siorc2, 2007-05-09 01:43 pm UTC
Re: Someone is confused - [info]cpxbrex, 2007-05-09 04:48 pm UTC
Re: Someone is confused - [info]mattador, 2007-05-09 05:25 pm UTC
Re: Someone is confused - [info]cpxbrex, 2007-05-09 05:29 pm UTC
Re: Someone is confused - [info]mattador, 2007-05-09 05:37 pm UTC
Re: Someone is confused - [info]cpxbrex, 2007-05-09 05:44 pm UTC
Re: Someone is confused - [info]mattador, 2007-05-09 05:48 pm UTC
Re: Someone is confused - [info]cpxbrex, 2007-05-09 05:55 pm UTC
Re: Someone is confused - [info]mattador, 2007-05-09 05:57 pm UTC
Re: Someone is confused - [info]cpxbrex, 2007-05-09 06:02 pm UTC
Re: Someone is confused - [info]mattador, 2007-05-09 06:11 pm UTC
Re: Someone is confused - [info]dvcastle, 2007-05-09 06:17 pm UTC
Re: Someone is confused - [info]rathgar, 2007-05-10 04:14 pm UTC
Re: Someone is confused - [info]siorc2, 2007-05-09 09:18 pm UTC
Re: Someone is confused - [info]howardbrazee, 2007-05-10 02:01 pm UTC
Re: Someone is confused - [info]skzbrust, 2007-05-10 02:44 pm UTC
Re: Someone is confused - [info]talesya, 2007-05-10 03:47 pm UTC
Re: Someone is confused - [info]howardbrazee, 2007-05-11 01:40 pm UTC
Re: Someone is confused - [info]talesya, 2007-05-11 04:12 pm UTC
Re: Someone is confused - [info]howardbrazee, 2007-05-11 04:54 pm UTC
Re: Someone is confused - [info]cpxbrex, 2007-05-11 07:57 am UTC
Re: Someone is confused - [info]siorc2, 2007-05-11 01:11 am UTC
Re: Someone is confused - [info]cpxbrex, 2007-05-11 08:05 am UTC
Re: Someone is confused - [info]talesya, 2007-05-09 05:58 pm UTC
Sacrifice and humility - [info]dvcastle, 2007-05-09 06:25 pm UTC
Re: Sacrifice and humility - [info]talesya, 2007-05-09 08:09 pm UTC
Re: Sacrifice and humility - [info]salzara_tirwen, 2007-05-10 01:46 am UTC
Re: Someone is confused - [info]siorc2, 2007-05-09 09:30 pm UTC
Re: Someone is confused - [info]talesya, 2007-05-09 11:09 pm UTC
Re: Someone is confused - [info]siorc2, 2007-05-09 11:26 pm UTC
Re: Someone is confused - [info]talesya, 2007-05-10 07:07 pm UTC
Re: Someone is confused - [info]siorc2, 2007-05-10 09:42 pm UTC
Re: Someone is confused - [info]talesya, 2007-05-11 04:05 pm UTC
Re: Someone is confused - [info]siorc2, 2007-05-11 04:31 pm UTC
Re: Someone is confused - [info]talesya, 2007-05-11 05:20 pm UTC
Re: Someone is confused - [info]llennhoff, 2007-05-09 01:44 pm UTC
Re: Someone is confused - [info]cpxbrex, 2007-05-09 04:50 pm UTC
You are smarter than you think - [info]dvcastle, 2007-05-09 04:22 pm UTC
Re: You are smarter than you think - [info]dirkcjelli, 2007-05-09 04:36 pm UTC
Re: You are smarter than you think - [info]dvcastle, 2007-05-09 04:48 pm UTC
Re: You are smarter than you think - [info]cpxbrex, 2007-05-09 04:51 pm UTC
Re: You are smarter than you think - [info]llennhoff, 2007-05-09 04:59 pm UTC
Re: You are smarter than you think - [info]dvcastle, 2007-05-09 05:20 pm UTC
Re: You are smarter than you think - [info]talesya, 2007-05-09 06:02 pm UTC
Re: You are smarter than you think - [info]dvcastle, 2007-05-09 06:14 pm UTC
Re: You are smarter than you think - [info]sgarvey, 2007-05-10 12:09 am UTC
Re: You are smarter than you think - [info]talesya, 2007-05-10 03:19 am UTC
Re: You are smarter than you think - [info]sgarvey, 2007-05-10 06:18 pm UTC
Re: You are smarter than you think - [info]llennhoff, 2007-05-09 06:22 pm UTC
Re: You are smarter than you think - [info]dvcastle, 2007-05-09 06:31 pm UTC
Re: You are smarter than you think - [info]cpxbrex, 2007-05-09 10:06 pm UTC
Does Brust think Vlad is real? - [info]dvcastle, 2007-05-09 10:40 pm UTC
Re: Does Brust think Vlad is real? - [info]cpxbrex, 2007-05-09 10:48 pm UTC
Re: Someone is confused - [info]oakdragon, 2007-05-09 05:19 pm UTC
Re: Someone is confused - [info]siorc2, 2007-05-09 11:48 pm UTC
Re: Someone is confused - [info]oakdragon, 2007-05-11 08:03 pm UTC

[info]schmwarf
2007-05-09 03:31 am UTC (link)
I find it interesting that reading through the fog of the media and the net that some Republicans refer to others that do not adhere to their political beliefs as "un-American" (eg "Michael Moore hates America"). One could argue that its these Republicans that are un-American because they do not support and respect democratic diversity, freedom of speech etc.

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[info]silversaff
2007-05-09 05:21 pm UTC (link)
That more comes from the idea of losing solidarity. We're making ourselves a laughing stock to the rest of the world by not sticking together, even in light of disagreements about political standpoints. (eg The Dixie Chicks in Europe). We come across as a bunch of squabbling kids rather than a united front.

Think back to World War II, and the posters and images of support. This is the kind of ideal that someone who would make such statements is thinking back to.

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(no subject) - [info]larswyrdson, 2007-05-09 05:43 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]silversaff, 2007-05-10 04:31 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]talesya, 2007-05-09 05:50 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]schmwarf, 2007-05-10 12:26 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]silversaff, 2007-05-10 04:26 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]silversaff, 2007-05-10 04:24 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]talesya, 2007-05-10 06:59 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]silversaff, 2007-05-11 09:44 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]talesya, 2007-05-15 03:12 am UTC

[info]tunxeh
2007-05-09 03:44 am UTC (link)
A different interpretation of Jesus' attitude towards gays

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[info]mattador
2007-05-09 06:25 pm UTC (link)
Extremely interesting. Thanks!

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[info]maryrobinette
2007-05-09 03:58 am UTC (link)
Ahahaha!

See. A good story like that is all it takes to make me stop lurking.

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[info]thisdaydreamer
2007-05-09 04:36 am UTC (link)
*laughs* That's KJV, right?

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[info]tiamat1972
2007-05-09 06:40 am UTC (link)
You have the most awesome icon. May I use it? I'm a long time lurker here.

Jim sounds cool. I'm going to have to remember that quote.

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(no subject) - [info]thisdaydreamer, 2007-05-09 06:43 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]tiamat1972, 2007-05-09 07:28 am UTC

[info]talesya
2007-05-09 04:52 am UTC (link)
That is the oddest definition of "friend" I've seen in a long time. But I do like that altered passage; I just might have to steal most of it for use elsewhere.

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[info]artslave
2007-05-09 04:10 pm UTC (link)
Here's a lyric about such "friends", from one of the many memorable songs from They Might Be Giants:

This is where the party ends
I can't stand here listening to you
And your racist friend
I know politics bore you
But I feel like a hypocrite talking to you
And your racist friend.


-- "Your Racist Friend" from the album Flood

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Yeshua
[info]libertango
2007-05-09 05:33 am UTC (link)
He was male, 33, unmarried in that culture, and a mama's boy.

You figure it out.

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[info]hellmutt
2007-05-09 11:35 am UTC (link)
As a certified asexual, I should voice resentment towards that assumption.

Yup. If only I didn't share it.

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(no subject) - [info]larswyrdson, 2007-05-09 05:39 pm UTC

[info]yndy
2007-05-09 06:12 am UTC (link)
I love this with every fiber of my political being...
I had to read it out loud to my husband, because I was laughing so hard.
(Did I mention I'm the anti-Bush, socially liberal Republican and he's the Democrat in the family... probably not, but it makes it funnier...)

I just wish I could memorize that line sufficiently to use when I have need.
Not my forte tho, so I'll just have to think of this entry and laugh hysterically instead whenever someone gives me crap for being Republican *and* in favor of gay marriage rights.

Seriously... Major kudos to Jim.

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[info]c0d3_m0nk3y
2007-05-09 01:35 pm UTC (link)
I admit it: I don't get it.

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[info]goldenstag
2007-05-09 02:46 pm UTC (link)
Bwhahahahaha. Being a reformed southern baptist (as in "I grew up"), that's hysterical.

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[info]coffeeem
2007-05-09 03:32 pm UTC (link)
Tell Don to tell Jim he rocks.

(Oh, and tell Don I say, "Hi!")

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[info]thedragonweaver
2007-05-10 02:52 am UTC (link)
Of course homosexuality is covered in the New Testament.

It's under the section about "motes and beams."

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[info]imadra_blue
2007-05-10 06:39 pm UTC (link)
This has to be one the best posts ever. :D

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Interested
[info]walkercal
2007-05-11 04:47 am UTC (link)
I'd like to give you a message from a conservative Christian, George Bush supporting, Pro-American, Capitalist... I'm sorry your experience with Christians has been so negative. Jim's friend doesn't sound like the type of guy that gives Christianity a good name. My late father who was a somewhat unorthodox minister had a term for these type of "Christians", he called them "Nitwittnesses". So I'm going to ask the kitchy, glam/Christian, self serving rhetorical question, "What Would Jesus Do?" (I could go on for some time about what kind of hubris a Christian has to have to make the WWJD statement with a serious look on their face, but that's for another time) I truly believe that Jesus would want Jim to volunteer at an Aid's clinic. Please accept my apology and know that not all conservative Christian, George Bush supporting, Pro-American, Capitalists are knee jerk reactionary and fearful. I must say that I don't agree with your politics but you sure can write a damn fine yarn when you want to. PS. I've emailed you a couple of times in the last 10 years and you've always been a gentleman. Can you recommend a easy read book/information on Socialism? I figure that since I've been so dead against the Socialist philosophy for so long, I should educate myself as to why.

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